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10 Month Old Presa Canario/rotty Is Terrible To Walk.?

09.07.2010 · Posted in Home

I have 2 dogs, my first a 1 and a half year ancient chocolate Labrador was the simplest dog to train ive ever owned he does whatever i say within at the very most 2 commands, but on the other hand my presa x rotty is a right small dude hes just really terrible to walk no matter what i try, ive tried training both my dogs the same way but this small un just wont listen here is a list of stuff he does whilst out walking:
-Barks at vehicles
-Barks at people
- Lets of a huge whining sound when he sees other dogs
- pulls
- If i let him off the lead i know for a fact he wont come back
We have practiced him returning in the garden for hours and he just doesn’t get it.
Any help appreciated, thanks.


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6 Responses to “10 Month Old Presa Canario/rotty Is Terrible To Walk.?”

  1. That is one hell of a mix, and one that absolutely should not be with anyone but the most experienced of handlers, and if you are only used to chocolate lab then you need to do some learning quick.
    Quite honestly this is not a dog for the faint hearted and I would much prefer to see one or the other and not a cross so at least you have a chance of knowing what you are getting.
    I know how hard male rotties can be to see through their adolescence let alone a mix of two breeds. Absolutely DO NOT let this dog off in public. It’s not that this dog doesn’t get it as rotties are very intelligent and simple when it comes to working. It is purely that he is sticking one finger up at you and doing exactly what he pleases.
    How ancient is this dog. I reckon you need to find behavioral classes here before things go incorrect. Some excellent trainers provide “naughty dog” classes and that is what he needs (and you) from a very experienced knowledgable person.
    Where abouts in the UK are you and how ancient is this dog.
    In the meantime google NILIF and absolutely get on with it asap. Do not allow this dog any privelages whatsoever. This really isn’t amusing and you could end up with problems. Who the hell mixed these two dogs, as I would personally like to “have words”….!!!
    Add on — I really really agree with Maxi. Can I just say that I ALWAYS on here tell everyone that rotties are one of the most tolerant dogs with children that there are.
    But, Maxi & I are not incorrect here – as soft as your dog is with kids, he is 10 months ancient and still a baby. If you don’t get a grip then you WILL have problems.
    Please place the NILIF in place as we have both suggested.
    Last summer I took in a foster rottie (18 months)- as I do countless number of times. I got outside the gate for our first walk and I, all 5 ft 2″ of me was leaning backwards at 45 degrees trying to hold this dog. I went no further. Turned around and did nothing but heelwork around the garden and place NILIF in place and was really tough on him. Then I broke my wrist – got felled by two rotties when walking the rescues at the kennels…lol. but it place my foster way back. I had by now chose to keep him anyway, and WHEN my wrist was better enough to hold him securely I took him to a behavioral class. He is now going to companion dog shows, socialisation walks, dog classes (for him) where after 3 weeks they have place us through to their top class.
    To start his walking I used a gentle leader and a harness with a double finished lead clipped onto both so I had control of both ends. I also went on to just a choke chain and at one time considered a prong. The only reason I never used the prong is it is a last resort to me and the reason being that they respond to the training tool and not to the training. ie…take the prong off and they revert back too easily.
    Stick with it.. but please do get on with the NILIF

  2. Jenny Manyteeth says:

    Labs tend to be more subordinate and are much more motivated to make their humans pleased.
    Presas and Rotts are rarely subordinate and are much less motivated to make their humans pleased. They like and are bonded, but obedient… not yet.
    Your Lab is being a excellent, typical Labrador. The Presa is being what he is… waiting for you to show him that you are his boss. He isn’t buying it, yet. I suggest you find a training school that specializes in the huge guard dogs. Methods that work on the Lab aren’t –as you’ve found– going to work with the Presa.
    He sounds like a treasure; don’t give up on him. He’ ll be terrific once you get through to him.

  3. Well you must like a challenge getting a dog like this…………….at 10 month ancient most dogs will push their luck and go ‘deaf’ and if you haven’t place the work, socialising and training in prior to this age you have some very hard work on your hands.
    Today start NILIF http://k9aro.webs.com/nilif.htm and stick to it ALL THE TIME so your dog learns that you are in charge, so he works to earn everything he gets…so read and learn it as this dog really needs this….this dog gets nothing unless he earns it, as for your lab having to be told twice…he also needs it, told once and obeyed is the way to go, if not your lab will see the other dog getting away with things and he will follow suit….as for letting it off the lead DON’T, it is a resource that needs to be earned and way before you ever trust him off lead he needs lots of training and socialisation and even then place on a strong tracking line with it trailing so you can get control quickly…so it is semi free time.
    My advice would be that you also need professional help, so contact a excellent dog class so you get the support you need and he gets to meet other dogs and people in controlled conditions.
    Have you had this dog neutered? If not get it booked and done asap..excellent luck
    Add: Sorry i forgot to add the training for the lead pulling ……….get a 6′ lead and tie one end around your waist, clip him to the other end…no looking, no talking and no touching hm or the lead, you have both hands free so you can get on and do anything you want to do, from housework to gardening to making a drink sitting down and drinking it……..if you see the dog out the corner of your eye or it goes in front of you then just turn and go in the other direction…this acts as a physical ‘reminder’ that you are the leader and he is the follower…at least an hour a day, you may want to do 15 mins for the first few times but at least 4 times a day you do it so he learns and you are not exhausted, also the time in between is often very useful for dogs to absorb the new information and it is absorbed quickly as you are not putting additional pressure on him with talking, touching or looking at him……….within a week if your are consistant you will find you need to look behind you to see if he is there as you feel no pull on the lead, when you get to this stage, gently ( with relaxed arm and hand) hold the lead and continue to walk, if he pulls forward, drop lead and turn, then try again in a few minutes, so yu get to a point that he understands this is what lead walking means…when you are ready you just continue this training by going out and doing the same thing…but with more distractions which changes it for the dog…so you may not get very far from your house for a few days as you constantly turn……remember ‘resourse’ he has to earn everything he gets.
    Just so you can feel and know why he pulls…get a lead hold on tight and question someone to hold the other end and pull it……….what do you do? You either pull back or if you don’t you are pulled off balance………which is exactly why the dog pulls, he doesn’t want to be off balance as an unbalanced body = an unbalanced mind……this lead training stops this unbalanced lead work and can be done at anytime so you don’t have to place additional hours in separately to do it, nor do you need to choke him or yank him, nor shout, the cooler you are the better for you and him..he is a huge dog and if he wanted to could pull you over very easily, but as a respected cool pack leader he will learn to respect you as that and obey instantly.

  4. Conny Ward says:

    walk him on ur left hand side as this u are dominating him ,if a dogs walks on ur right he thinks he is boss,
    use a choke chain wen walking and training when he plays up give the lead a sharp jolt and right him straight away if he still not listen jolt him again use a firm voice command “NO” and praise him with a high
    tone voice “goodboy”when he complies,to make ur dog want to come to you on command buy him some treats go outside in the morning call him and give him one or just simply throw a ball for him,but it is vital that u do these every time you go see him so he knows he will get something from you,when walking the dog on choke chain do not let him walk in front of you he should allways be on your left hand side behind your left leg if he gose in front jolt the chain,the thought is you walk where you want not where the dog wants so in training you can change your direction as u please to right the dogfor example if he keeps walking infront of you ,just walk in the opposite direction and jolt the chain,dont be frightened of hurting him cas the dogs neck is the strongest part of the dog,allways keep ur commands simple use only one command for each action dont confuse him there is a lot more to do including training of yourself how to handle the dog hope this helps cheers

  5. My dog is part rott and he use to pull me down the road and he only weighs 60 lbs….. Rotts can be stubborn but I agree wit u they are wonderful family dogs….What I suggest doing wit him on walks is discourage his terrible behavior by using a very firm voice(one u use to discipline him) and he pulls u, immediately pull him back twice as hard as he pulled u….it wont hurt him…he will just get annoyed wit u pulling so he will stop lol….hopefully this helped….it did for my rotty mix……excellent luck:)

  6. easy way is always mined says:

    ^loraine.

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